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Apps debates

    • 491 posts
    July 10, 2012 6:16 PM PDT

    Ok...lets get our apps nailed. I have my list that I am testing, and have to make some go/no-go decisions on others. So post your faves here.

     

    I am not ready to put the full list up as I am still testing, but here is one that is 99%

     

    Web Browser - will be Chromium

     

    Just works - some complain that its to heavy, but its stable, fast, and works on all systems that I test and the memory footprint is favorable to the "others" out there except Midori, but it still needs a bit more work in my opinion. Also if you live in a google world and sync your stuff (bookmarks, settings, etc) between windows and Linux, etc. Then Chromium is nice for that. 

     

    I will post some more apps to debate tomorrow, but feel free to throw anything up to discuss.

     

    biff

  • July 12, 2012 12:44 AM PDT
    Yes Chromium is good! And what about GWoffice for the office suite?
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    July 12, 2012 4:20 AM PDT
    I have never used Chromium - does it have the ability to use extensions like "noscript", as firefox does? Or can it be tweaked and secured? I have wanted to try it, here recently.

    As for the office suite: if Abiword is to be used, I have heard negative comments about version2.9.2 (crashing, very buggy).

    One thing about WattOS, is we can always add or remove packages to each individuals taste.
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    July 12, 2012 4:33 AM PDT
    "One thing about WattOS, is we can always add or remove packages to each individuals taste."

    But then again, that one was pretty much inherited from Ubuntu, and maybe even Debian, too.
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    July 12, 2012 3:49 PM PDT
    You are absolutely right Dave. I really just try to provide a good basr of apps and functions for the average user, then others can customize for what they like.
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    July 12, 2012 3:51 PM PDT
    Ok next up....VLC for video? Should it be the standard or not? Do you have other favorites? List them here.
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    July 13, 2012 8:55 AM PDT

    Ok...how about graphics. I like Pinta since its a simpler editing program with some gimp like features. Gimp seems to heavy for me, and way to much stuff for the average user. The only thing that Pinta has that causes some to go into a tailspin is a mono dependency. Throw some others out if you like.

     

    Also email client? I removed it last time around because frankly I have not used an email client for a long time. I just use webmail for both corporate and personal work. is there a need?

     

    Music player? - I like audacious since its simple and fast and does have the ability to play most formats well as well as my local library. Any thoughts?

     

     

     


    This post was edited by biff baxter at July 13, 2012 9:13 AM PDT
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    July 13, 2012 9:16 AM PDT
    gwoffice is very interesting...I am going to test that over the next couple of days. Finalize the app list and publish here likely on Sunday then we get to polishing and setting a release target. Should not be long now. Thanks for the patience.

    biff
  • July 13, 2012 9:24 AM PDT
    about Gwoffice, I'm trying to use it on Mint 13, but there are still some bugs...
    instead about Audacious, thumb up! and the same about Pinta!
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    July 13, 2012 9:39 AM PDT
    Well that was quick...I am not going to include gwoffice. Its a good idea and I do a lot of google based work, but definitely not ready - I will watch in the future. Additionally I dont like the fact that if you tell it to save your credentials, it puts them text file that is easily readable in your .local/share directory.

    On to the next options
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    July 13, 2012 9:53 AM PDT
    "Music player? - I like audacious since its simple and fast and does have the ability to play most formats well as well as my local library. Any thoughts?"

    I like it too, but doesn't VLC play both music and video files?

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    July 13, 2012 3:16 PM PDT

    i would make a plug for including wine 1.5.4 or greater, 109 mb. Newcomers are generally migrants from Windoze. Something familar, like a known program being present, would be very comforting to them - maybe keep them on long enough to really appreciate the advantages of Linux. For those people outfitting anachronisms and needing everything to be as light as possible, a quick trip to Synaptic to remove Wine involves only a few clicks. The other way around, installing and using, is more complicated and requires caliberation and sometimes modifications before really working efficiently. Getting Wine already installed, caliberated and working in a new Linux distro is almost unique.

     

    Definitely VLC - a proven player that does more - audio, video, records, more codecs, picks up more sound cards, etc.

     

    I like gedit because it color codes, but leafpad is one-fourth the weight - 3000 verses 750 mg.

     

    Gimp has a lot but very hard for amateurs to use. All other Linux image editors are lacking even for amateur use. I use PhotoFiltre, 50mg, easy to use with probably everything 99% of amateur users use. But it needs Wine!

     

    Abiword-Gnumeric proven office tools and reasonably lightweight.

     

    Xfburn - light, always worked for me, greatest burn rate spectrum.

     

    Image-Viewer: gthumb, has most features.

     

    Screenshooter: must take pictures of subregions, I like xfce4-screenshooter.

     

    Search tool: gnome.

     

    Notes: gnote.

     

    Sound-control: pavucontrol (a must).

     

    Just tried lxmed on a system with openjdk (java). It seems to work well - did not about 2 years ago for me. So if you are including java, include lxmed.  Of couse, lxmed always works with Oracle Java, which would be nice to include but ...!  

     

    Keep remastersys.

     

    Save weight by minimizing icon sets. Seems distros come loaded with icon sets that are never used.


    This post was edited by Douglas Willett at July 13, 2012 3:27 PM PDT
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    July 17, 2012 12:33 PM PDT

    I've gotten to really like the myStuff launcher. It has a broad range of uses without doing much tecnical work. Here is one used to launch radio stations and act as a terminal and keyboard cheat sheat:


    This post was edited by Douglas Willett at July 17, 2012 12:37 PM PDT
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    August 25, 2012 2:30 AM PDT

    Synaptic ! Other proposition: Ubuntu-Tweak, baobab,gparted


    This post was edited by miral stanek at August 25, 2012 2:31 AM PDT
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    August 27, 2012 12:38 AM PDT

    Douglas Willett said: Save weight by minimizing icon sets. Seems distros come loaded with icon sets that are never used.

    I have to agree with this statement. Most distros come bogged down with icon sets that just don't do "it" for me. One of the first things I add is the AdriX icon theme I think it's just the bomb-diggity.

     

     

    VLC is hands down the default video player for any distro, in fact when I was using Windblows it was a must have there as well.

    Chromium is a smart move IMO as most of us are aware of the attitude Adobe has taken towards Linux users. Untill Lightspark can replace the flash plug-in Chromimum is the browser to go with.

     

    This thread seems moot as I'm downloading R6 now, but I had to chime in.

     

    Oh....as to Ubuntu-Tweak......it's a fun little app but the add/remove app function is buggy at best and messing with repositories is not something all users can do without seriously messing up their distro.

    • 62 posts
    August 28, 2012 7:43 AM PDT
    @august i heard flash dosn't support linux anymore why?
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    August 28, 2012 1:53 PM PDT
    david linares said:
    @august i heard flash dosn't support linux anymore why?

    Why is up for speculation. The official stance from Adobe (as I understand it) is that it isn't a Linux thing but rather they spend too much time coding plug-ins for various browsers and as it seems Google rules the net that's where they will be placing their efforts.

     

    I'm assuming that's one of the reasons Biff picked Chromium as it's the base for Google Chrome.

     

    So, if you go with Chromium/Google Chrome for your browser you shouldn't feel the "flash pinch" as badly no matter what OS you use.

     

    Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

     

     


    This post was edited by August West at August 28, 2012 1:54 PM PDT
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    August 29, 2012 10:07 AM PDT
    i'm using srware iron which is based off of chrome. i read this in a forum somewhere.
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    August 29, 2012 10:09 AM PDT
    p.s i hate chromium for asking me to sign in with there browser i think firefox or srware should of been the default browser.
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    August 29, 2012 1:19 PM PDT
    @ david linares. I used to like chromium, but for the same reason you stated, about the "sign-in" nag screen, I remove it immediately after installing FF.

    @ August West. I'd love to know where you found that info. Do you have a link? I tried to find some news about that, but can't seem to locate anything. It just seems weird that Adobe would make a move like that, especially with Google, since their Android is Linux based. Albeit, there are a lot of Linux based devices now, and Adobe did get into a "stink" with Apple not log ago and left Apple high and dry. (Snickering). Who knows what the future of computing will be.
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    August 29, 2012 3:15 PM PDT
    agreed mickey
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    August 29, 2012 8:31 PM PDT
    @ david linares. I don't know why it didn't sink in the first time I read your post above about Iron, but I didn't realize Iron was available for Linux. WOW! This thing is smokin' fast! ...and no nag screen!!!!! Cheers!
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    August 30, 2012 12:51 AM PDT
    LOL
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    August 31, 2012 1:42 PM PDT

    I found this on the Adobe site by checking for updates on my netbook. What is this telling me about future Linux support...if any?

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    August 31, 2012 7:34 PM PDT
    Mickey Way said:

    I found this on the Adobe site by checking for updates on my netbook. What is this telling me about future Linux support...if any?

    It's probably telling you that in a few years you'll have to use Gnash instead. Or maybe Mozilla (And perhaps Midori as well) can use VLC (http://wiki.videolan.org/Flash_Video ) to replace Flash as a Plug-in, I think I saw the package for that somewhere in Synaptic, though I haven't tried it myself....


    This post was edited by Dave . at August 31, 2012 7:35 PM PDT